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		<title>By: Joe Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistvoice.ca/?p=312&#038;cpage=1#comment-1471</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you get from this excellent macro-analysis to a level of communication of the urgency of the situation to the younger generation living still comfortably but marginally in countries like Canada and the USA? I ask because I have made a strong effort to engage with people in their 20s and early 30s, and they are moved in particular when hearing of the huge ecological problems you cite and the alternative of a world-wide socialism -- moved to denial! I am talking about intelligent young people who have had the benefit of education (such as it is these days). Their mindset is, to say the least, un-adventuresome, actually very present-focused with a veiled fear of the future that they try to keep out of their minds by focusing on the trivia of their present struggling lives. Their adjustment is to progressively declining personal circumstances, or if they happen to be among the few who manage to secure a position within the bourgeois hierarchy, bind themselves very close to an invisible set of constricting rules that subsume capitalist modes of being.

In addition, their attitudes have been inoculated by the cultural apparatus to think of terms like &quot;socialism&quot; or &quot;Marx&quot;, etc. as demonic and conflatable with the worst of the USSR. Some seek contemporary information, and most know what they see in the mass media TV and radio is ideologically contaminated, but when they do use e.g. the Internet, they tend to a tribal sort of selection that is apolitical and &quot;social&quot; that is mutually reassuring among their peers. If they do come upon current event issues, it is of the kind that are distorted to elicit paranoia and resignation, based on a great deal of misinformation and the results of outright disinformation. Mostly the confusion comes from a lack of having learned any critical thinking skills.

Never have there been young generations so ill-equipped to deal with crisis, let alone this uniquely significant of a crisis of the entire human race, largely brought about by the march of capitalism in its &quot;grow or die&quot; imperative.

Instead of being able to identify the forces that threaten to make miserable and ultimately shorten their lives, young people very often turn upon older people, poor people, homeless, etc., as scapegoats for their insecurity. They do not see the social origins of the plight of the less able, only that such people are somehow weak and undeserving of living. It isn&#039;t usually blatant, more a dismissive patronizing attitude that bespeaks a collective desire to support social culling. Little do they know that they are only steps away from themselves being culled.

These are the people who do the work, anywhere from the McJobs to the minions of bureaucracy and corporate predation. Even when they lose their job in this uncertain environment, they gradually scale down, living with others, scrambling for handouts and temp jobs, etc., until they become among the homeless they formerly held in contempt. I&#039;ve seen too many people in their late 20s and early 30s who are already burnt out from throwing in their lot with their capitalist masters, so that  their lives just shrink more and more, and any talk about social change, about socialism, seems to them like the ravings of a madman.

In sum, Ian, despite your thoughtful words, the very people who are still in a position to do something about this crisis of capitalism, are the least able and prepared, even if it means their long suffering unto a premature death. How do we get from &#039;preaching to the choir&#039; on sites such as this to reaching these  young people? This ain&#039;t the 60s, idealism or even the recognition that something is badly wrong, is largely missing. They live lives of &quot;the minimal self&quot; as Christopher Lasch famously warned. Look up on the Web the Turnbull essay on the Ik tribe to see what is coming in the face of our &#039;all against all&#039; society engendered by capitalism. Ian, how do we reach these hapless souls? I want my e-mail unhidden; it is: vicjoe [at] shaw [dot] ca. Thoughtful comments only, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you get from this excellent macro-analysis to a level of communication of the urgency of the situation to the younger generation living still comfortably but marginally in countries like Canada and the USA? I ask because I have made a strong effort to engage with people in their 20s and early 30s, and they are moved in particular when hearing of the huge ecological problems you cite and the alternative of a world-wide socialism &#8212; moved to denial! I am talking about intelligent young people who have had the benefit of education (such as it is these days). Their mindset is, to say the least, un-adventuresome, actually very present-focused with a veiled fear of the future that they try to keep out of their minds by focusing on the trivia of their present struggling lives. Their adjustment is to progressively declining personal circumstances, or if they happen to be among the few who manage to secure a position within the bourgeois hierarchy, bind themselves very close to an invisible set of constricting rules that subsume capitalist modes of being.</p>
<p>In addition, their attitudes have been inoculated by the cultural apparatus to think of terms like &#8220;socialism&#8221; or &#8220;Marx&#8221;, etc. as demonic and conflatable with the worst of the USSR. Some seek contemporary information, and most know what they see in the mass media TV and radio is ideologically contaminated, but when they do use e.g. the Internet, they tend to a tribal sort of selection that is apolitical and &#8220;social&#8221; that is mutually reassuring among their peers. If they do come upon current event issues, it is of the kind that are distorted to elicit paranoia and resignation, based on a great deal of misinformation and the results of outright disinformation. Mostly the confusion comes from a lack of having learned any critical thinking skills.</p>
<p>Never have there been young generations so ill-equipped to deal with crisis, let alone this uniquely significant of a crisis of the entire human race, largely brought about by the march of capitalism in its &#8220;grow or die&#8221; imperative.</p>
<p>Instead of being able to identify the forces that threaten to make miserable and ultimately shorten their lives, young people very often turn upon older people, poor people, homeless, etc., as scapegoats for their insecurity. They do not see the social origins of the plight of the less able, only that such people are somehow weak and undeserving of living. It isn&#8217;t usually blatant, more a dismissive patronizing attitude that bespeaks a collective desire to support social culling. Little do they know that they are only steps away from themselves being culled.</p>
<p>These are the people who do the work, anywhere from the McJobs to the minions of bureaucracy and corporate predation. Even when they lose their job in this uncertain environment, they gradually scale down, living with others, scrambling for handouts and temp jobs, etc., until they become among the homeless they formerly held in contempt. I&#8217;ve seen too many people in their late 20s and early 30s who are already burnt out from throwing in their lot with their capitalist masters, so that  their lives just shrink more and more, and any talk about social change, about socialism, seems to them like the ravings of a madman.</p>
<p>In sum, Ian, despite your thoughtful words, the very people who are still in a position to do something about this crisis of capitalism, are the least able and prepared, even if it means their long suffering unto a premature death. How do we get from &#8216;preaching to the choir&#8217; on sites such as this to reaching these  young people? This ain&#8217;t the 60s, idealism or even the recognition that something is badly wrong, is largely missing. They live lives of &#8220;the minimal self&#8221; as Christopher Lasch famously warned. Look up on the Web the Turnbull essay on the Ik tribe to see what is coming in the face of our &#8216;all against all&#8217; society engendered by capitalism. Ian, how do we reach these hapless souls? I want my e-mail unhidden; it is: vicjoe [at] shaw [dot] ca. Thoughtful comments only, please.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistvoice.ca/?p=312&#038;cpage=1#comment-1299</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is now available in Portuguese:
http://bioterra.blogspot.com/2008/08/ian-angus-se-o-socialismo-falha-o.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is now available in Portuguese:<br />
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		<title>By: David Grosser</title>
		<link>http://www.socialistvoice.ca/?p=312&#038;cpage=1#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>David Grosser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another likely aspect of climate crisis induced &quot;barbarism&quot; will be growing authoritarianism in the advanced capitalist countries.  The ruling class will want to hold on to privileges, no matter how environmentally destructive and in order to mitigate the damage will use increasingly undemocratic means to force the bulk of the population to do with less to compensate.

As is already clear from the US Iraq occupation, ruling classes, (Bush, Cheney et al but with only weak opposition from the Democrats)  will increasingly focus on controlling scarcer oil reserves in order to obtain strategic advantages vis a vis the other capitalist powers.  This will be accompanied by chauvanist appeals to the general population to support wars to &quot;protect our oil&quot; and, again as we have already seen, erosion of democratic rights to suppress opponents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another likely aspect of climate crisis induced &#8220;barbarism&#8221; will be growing authoritarianism in the advanced capitalist countries.  The ruling class will want to hold on to privileges, no matter how environmentally destructive and in order to mitigate the damage will use increasingly undemocratic means to force the bulk of the population to do with less to compensate.</p>
<p>As is already clear from the US Iraq occupation, ruling classes, (Bush, Cheney et al but with only weak opposition from the Democrats)  will increasingly focus on controlling scarcer oil reserves in order to obtain strategic advantages vis a vis the other capitalist powers.  This will be accompanied by chauvanist appeals to the general population to support wars to &#8220;protect our oil&#8221; and, again as we have already seen, erosion of democratic rights to suppress opponents.</p>
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